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John benedict's avatar

What was payroll before and after trade?

Does it show 12M more or 2.75M

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AdministrativeSky236's avatar

Erod off the board to the snakes at 4/80, feels like something we could have been able to do. Reds were another finalist for him

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Aurorus Borealus's avatar

Great work Ethan. This was my first question when I saw the deal. How much are the cash considerations. Thanks.

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WTM's avatar

Real Pirate fans will remember, or will have read about, Vic Davalillo. He passed away at age 84.

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StatsCbl's avatar

In 1971 the Cardinals traded Nelson Briles and Vic Davalillo to the Pirates for Matty Alou.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

Helped win the Series against Baltimore as a pinch hitter. Nice player.

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Mel Schuster - emjayinTN's avatar

So we get an experienced (sometimes good experiences) LHSP with a salary of $12 mil and we only have to pay him $3 or $4 mil, and then we can try to get even that money back at the trade deadline?

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Mario's avatar

Only surprise for me was Lopez. Agree with an earlier comment. Saw him in Greensboro in 2022, and he looked like he was going to be a ball player. Was really looking forward to him in Altoona in 2023. Maybe something happened during the rehab?

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WTM's avatar

Could be that last statement.

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WTM's avatar

Actually, according to a FanNation piece, Lopez' surgery didn't go well, so that last thing appears to be the explanation.

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pskell02's avatar

Well, anyone want a Lopez gamer? Picked up a broken bat a while back and was hoping to display it once (if) he got to the bigs. So much for that.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

Keep it, he still may make it to the bigs.

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pskell02's avatar

Pretty much anyone that isn’t Cutch becomes an afterthought to me once they leave the Bucs. I’ll remember their time with the club but rarely ever go to check back in on them. He was too far away for the prospect crush to get too serious lol

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AdministrativeSky236's avatar

Great stuff ethan!

Losing Dariel seems like it was probably very unnecessary even though hes a lotto ticket at best

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StatsCbl's avatar

They just finished an MLB rule 5 draft with 8 players chosen and an Minor League rule 5 draft with either 65 or 73 players taken in about the same it takes the NFL to make their first 3 picks.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

And people complain Baseball is slow😁

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WTM's avatar

CF PJ Hilson from SF.

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WTM's avatar

Toolsy CF who can't hit. Got stuck in short-season ball for four years.

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NolaJeffy(BnP)'s avatar

Told Murphy a quick look at his stats makes me think of a Braylon Bishop who made it to Double-A

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Melkel's avatar

Doesn't strikeout as much as Bishop though, our hitting development program will get him swinging and missing in no time.

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WTM's avatar

Take 3B Marcos Cabrera from NYY.

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WTM's avatar

Power potential but major contact issues.

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WTM's avatar

Lost RHP Roelmy Garcia, another R level guy. Good arm, no clue where it's going. I've been watching him for a couple years and seen no improvement.

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bmcferren's avatar

we´re getting robbed here

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WTM's avatar

Lost C Rafael Escalante from rookie ball. Weird.

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WTM's avatar

Also lost Omar Cruz. To the Pads, which is where he came from. Whatever.

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bmcferren's avatar

they can´t have Bednar back

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WTM's avatar

Lost Dariel Lopez. That seems awfully stupid to me, leaving him unprotected.

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JT412's avatar

add it to the list of seemingly minor, yet still bad, Cherington decisions.

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TNBucs's avatar

I can't believe we left him unprotected in the minor league phase. When I saw him live with Greensboro in '22, I got a similar impression as I had from seeing Peguero live with Greensboro in '21--having that "it" quality. I came away as a big fan, and recall others having a similar view.

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TNBucs's avatar

OTOH, he didn't go until midway through the second round so it's not like he was in high demand. But, I'd rather have a 21-year-old athletic SS with pop (10 HRs as a 19-year-old in Bradenton, 19 HRs as a 20-year-old in Greensboro) than someone like Beer.

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