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I don't disagree with Wilbur's State of the System but *do* think he's selling short their capacity for trades.

There's plenty of meat left on this bone. It's just also gonna leave them gutted, and that's okay.

Fully staffing a big league roster AND leaving the pipeline full for the future needs to finally break with these guys. It's not gonna happen. They have a playoff-ready rotation and need for offense. It's not gonna get any closer than this.

Just fucking do it.

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There’s no problem with having prospects graduate to the majors, after all that is the point of having good prospects. The problem is that the prospects don’t fit together to make up an actual major league team when they’re virtually all pitchers. Everyone says don’t draft due to need, but ignoring needs gets you gigantic holes in the roster.

Unless you’re willing to fill those holes with trades or free agents, which the Pirates either haven’t done or done a lousy job of, you wind up with an outfield of Olivares, Taylor and Suwinski along with the utility guy named Joe and a first base position that is unsettled at best. Those kinds of holes would sink any boat even if the rest of the lineup was top notch, which of course it is not. The Pirates top outfield prospects are White at #32 along with an 18 and a 19 year old who may or may not ever develop and even if they do it’s 5-6 years down the road.

Combine that with a manager who appears to have no idea how to motivate players to actually, you know, play and who himself seems to not be paying attention much of the time and you wind up with a losing team along with lame excuses that often don’t even address the questionable issue.

The bottom line (as it appears to me anyway) is that if BC and Nutting don’t follow through with adding some quality position players to this organization there is no way the Pirates are going to win this year, next year or any other year in the foreseeable future. When the first words out of the mouth of the GM after his boss proclaims the need for better players is “internal options,” how much hope can there really be because there are none.

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