He went earlier than I expected but I would have liked him better than who we took in the 2nd round. I like Jebb the player but still can't stand the pirates draft from last year other than Skenes.
I've been talking myself up on some of the later round guys. Jebb is fine, as a guy likely to make the majors based on his all around game, but mostly nothing more than the all hit no power toolsy quick kids they already have.
McAdoo just by how his professional debut went intrigues me. Then there's some arms that as I read more on them, I like them much more. Murphy and I were simultaneously watching the streamed instructs game where Mueth pitched, and we both instantly went, "Wait. What? Did he just... What?" Not much to go off of, but some of the metrics he flashed in his short outing have me stoked to see him cut loose.
I liked the Mueth pick, and I liked the McAdoo pick. I think we went back and forth on PP when the Jebb pick was announced, pretty sure we didn't like it then, not because of the player himself but that we already had so many players with the same profile. With so many college bats and prep players still on the board.
Hopefully a few of Ben's bullpen brigade will pan out but still don't get their reasoning for rounds 4 through 12. Again I like all of the pitchers but wish we could have grabbed a couple of bats. The Reds took the center fielder out of Virgina in the 5th (comparable to Jebb) and I think the 1st basemen from Stanford in the 8th (comparable to Forrester) but we got the big arms with poor control nailed down.
MLB.com put out their list of top draft prospects. Seaver King OF/SS of Wake listed at 9. I know it's early but figured you may want to comb over the list.
I looked at it briefly, top 3 are very solid, Kurtz and Wetherholt would have been my 4 and 5 as far as college hitters go in 2023 right behind Schanuel, Langford and Crews.
I really like 2 players that didn't make the top hundred as far as college bats go. Ryan Campos C Asu and Burke 1st base Tennessee. I think both will go by the end of the 4th round and might climb higher.
Pirates acquired OF Billy McKinney on purpose. His .674 career OPS obviously fits BC's ideal for an OF. They gave up int'l bonus pool money, so this is probably what became of the Hedges money. So they traded a C who can't hit for an OF who can't hit.
Stumpf states incorrectly that McKinney was on the NYY 40-man. He was removed, became a FA, then re-signed on a MiL deal. No roster move is required.
I'm not sure but think international pool money has to be traded in $250,000 increments? If the Yankees needed that space, I'd want more than Billy McKinney.
The pitching list is impressive but the position player list isn't a ringing endorsement of Cherington's rebuild. There might be only one future major league regular on that entire list, though most should at least make the majors.
I'm very curious to see updated prospect reports for the Pirates. Especially after the BA chat with Norris, the Pirates system as a whole seems to have a "they're ok, but really not sure what to expect even from the 'good' prospects".
Tigers sign Jack Flaherty for 1 yr/$14m. Royals sign Seth Lugo for 3 yrs/$45m. Dodgers and Rays agree on trade to send oft-injured Tyler Glasnow to LA in exchange for controllable Pepiot. Pirates send international bonus money for... Bill McKinney. Who? An outfielder unable to hit in MLB who just signed a minor league contract with the Yankees. They can't even sign a AAAA outfielder who hit .096 in 2022 with the A's and they have to pay the Yankees for him? I've heard of Spahn and Sain and pray for rain but Keller and Gonzalez and no rhyme is going to help us! Merry Christmas, Buc fans!
Jared Jones started at AA last year and was then promoted to AAA where he started 15 games, 82 IP. Still a prospect, but would be one of my choices to be a SP for the Pirates to start the year coming out of ST in 2024.
CF - Lonnie White, Jr or Shalin Polanco should be in CF.
The only decent revenue-focused change in the Manfred Era has been the massive amount they put into promoting minor league ball.
MLB Pipeline exists for no reason other than to fluff minor leaguers, and they’ve been wildly successful. They hired the known names, who while out of touch with industry standards still draw clout to their evals, and they sure as hell didn’t build the flashiest platform in order to better communicate their realistic expectations for prospects.
Putting the best against each other on a larger stage seems a logical next step, and pretty fucking fun. Ya got me, Rob. Take my money.
With you there man, hundreds of thousands of views will go into a skenes vs holliday atbat and other similar matchups. Sounds so fun to me so why the hell not
Flaherty to the Tigers on a 1-year. 14-million-dollar deal. We dodged that bullet. What an absurd contract though to give a guy who was not even viable as a starting pitcher the last half of the season.
Just hope this is the international pool space for Hedges and not next year's. We get the extra space before the trade deadline, Dodgers trade for space with the White Sox after the trade deadline after the Korean pitcher announced his plan to come stateside. Dodgers get the pitcher, Pirates don't use their acquired pool space but trade it for Billy McKinney.
That's what it looks like to me.
I wonder what young guy the Yankees sign tomorrow?
This is Sean Sullivan erasure. I won't stand for it
we want to give other teams a chance. Can't make it too easy
I'll allow it
We might have to trade him for Sean Sullivan, It's a damn shame we missed our chance to corner the market on Sean Sullivan's.
By far the biggest failure of the BC era so far. Not drafting ALL of the Sean Sullivans
I really wanted him. Especially since he was also a pretty solid lefty arm too
He went earlier than I expected but I would have liked him better than who we took in the 2nd round. I like Jebb the player but still can't stand the pirates draft from last year other than Skenes.
I've been talking myself up on some of the later round guys. Jebb is fine, as a guy likely to make the majors based on his all around game, but mostly nothing more than the all hit no power toolsy quick kids they already have.
McAdoo just by how his professional debut went intrigues me. Then there's some arms that as I read more on them, I like them much more. Murphy and I were simultaneously watching the streamed instructs game where Mueth pitched, and we both instantly went, "Wait. What? Did he just... What?" Not much to go off of, but some of the metrics he flashed in his short outing have me stoked to see him cut loose.
I liked the Mueth pick, and I liked the McAdoo pick. I think we went back and forth on PP when the Jebb pick was announced, pretty sure we didn't like it then, not because of the player himself but that we already had so many players with the same profile. With so many college bats and prep players still on the board.
Hopefully a few of Ben's bullpen brigade will pan out but still don't get their reasoning for rounds 4 through 12. Again I like all of the pitchers but wish we could have grabbed a couple of bats. The Reds took the center fielder out of Virgina in the 5th (comparable to Jebb) and I think the 1st basemen from Stanford in the 8th (comparable to Forrester) but we got the big arms with poor control nailed down.
Hoping Woods stupid good control suddenly in the majors wasn't a flash in the pan
MLB.com put out their list of top draft prospects. Seaver King OF/SS of Wake listed at 9. I know it's early but figured you may want to comb over the list.
I looked at it briefly, top 3 are very solid, Kurtz and Wetherholt would have been my 4 and 5 as far as college hitters go in 2023 right behind Schanuel, Langford and Crews.
I really like 2 players that didn't make the top hundred as far as college bats go. Ryan Campos C Asu and Burke 1st base Tennessee. I think both will go by the end of the 4th round and might climb higher.
Pirates acquired OF Billy McKinney on purpose. His .674 career OPS obviously fits BC's ideal for an OF. They gave up int'l bonus pool money, so this is probably what became of the Hedges money. So they traded a C who can't hit for an OF who can't hit.
Stumpf states incorrectly that McKinney was on the NYY 40-man. He was removed, became a FA, then re-signed on a MiL deal. No roster move is required.
I'm not sure but think international pool money has to be traded in $250,000 increments? If the Yankees needed that space, I'd want more than Billy McKinney.
I think you're probably right about BC, he is approaching Littlefield territory bad.
The pitching list is impressive but the position player list isn't a ringing endorsement of Cherington's rebuild. There might be only one future major league regular on that entire list, though most should at least make the majors.
I'm very curious to see updated prospect reports for the Pirates. Especially after the BA chat with Norris, the Pirates system as a whole seems to have a "they're ok, but really not sure what to expect even from the 'good' prospects".
The question in "at least make the majors" is whether for a cup of coffee and 10-20 ABs or a 0.0
WAR player (bench piece) or a 2-3 WAR player (starter).
Tigers sign Jack Flaherty for 1 yr/$14m. Royals sign Seth Lugo for 3 yrs/$45m. Dodgers and Rays agree on trade to send oft-injured Tyler Glasnow to LA in exchange for controllable Pepiot. Pirates send international bonus money for... Bill McKinney. Who? An outfielder unable to hit in MLB who just signed a minor league contract with the Yankees. They can't even sign a AAAA outfielder who hit .096 in 2022 with the A's and they have to pay the Yankees for him? I've heard of Spahn and Sain and pray for rain but Keller and Gonzalez and no rhyme is going to help us! Merry Christmas, Buc fans!
I guess this is what we got for Hedges.
Jared Jones started at AA last year and was then promoted to AAA where he started 15 games, 82 IP. Still a prospect, but would be one of my choices to be a SP for the Pirates to start the year coming out of ST in 2024.
CF - Lonnie White, Jr or Shalin Polanco should be in CF.
Love this idea.
The only decent revenue-focused change in the Manfred Era has been the massive amount they put into promoting minor league ball.
MLB Pipeline exists for no reason other than to fluff minor leaguers, and they’ve been wildly successful. They hired the known names, who while out of touch with industry standards still draw clout to their evals, and they sure as hell didn’t build the flashiest platform in order to better communicate their realistic expectations for prospects.
Putting the best against each other on a larger stage seems a logical next step, and pretty fucking fun. Ya got me, Rob. Take my money.
With you there man, hundreds of thousands of views will go into a skenes vs holliday atbat and other similar matchups. Sounds so fun to me so why the hell not
Flaherty to the Tigers on a 1-year. 14-million-dollar deal. We dodged that bullet. What an absurd contract though to give a guy who was not even viable as a starting pitcher the last half of the season.
Yes, thank God Pittsburgh didn’t sign him so those starts go to Quinn Priester instead.
Note: I’m not advocating for signing Flaherty. Just that Pittsburgh’s rotation is filled with bigger bums.
At least the bums that we have are not total complete headcases who will alienate fans, media, and teammates with their narcissism.
Yeah, they’re sticking to just being worse pitchers. We can take comfort in that.
Nice exercise here A.M. All the more reason to circle 3/14 on the calendar!
pi day!
LOL! What could we get for the hedges behind the center field fence?
Compost
Glasnow to the Dodgers pending extension.
Still mad about the Ohtani deal, snakes in 6
Billy McKinney from the yanks? Fuck Im going to be so pissed if thats our new outfielder
Just hope this is the international pool space for Hedges and not next year's. We get the extra space before the trade deadline, Dodgers trade for space with the White Sox after the trade deadline after the Korean pitcher announced his plan to come stateside. Dodgers get the pitcher, Pirates don't use their acquired pool space but trade it for Billy McKinney.
That's what it looks like to me.
I wonder what young guy the Yankees sign tomorrow?
Man i dont know. The rowdy then endy then mckinney cycle has me down in the dumps about this team
Yep