I wouldn't say that. For all the issues we've seen with Suwinski in the majors, he was a pretty strong contact guy in the minors. I'd say defensively Gorski is better than Suwinski in center field. He probably has more raw power, he just doesn't make the kind of contact Suwinski did in the minors. Doesn't project well to the majors.
How are you defining contact? I’m not great at pulling together these numbers. I usually seem to miss some component of them, but as best I can determine Suwinski struck out around 27% of this plate appearances in the minors and Gorski’s around 28% so there’s not much difference there. We all know Suwinski’s strike out’s with the Pirates and Gorski’s not had the chance to find out what he can do probably because of injuries.
Suwinski’s offensive contributions are primarily his home runs and walks are they not? He doesn’t drive in many runs related to the number of homers he hits and his career BA is .209. He has good speed but doesn’t steal many bases.
It’s not fair nor informative to compare these guys and it shouldn’t be looked at as a competition between them. One’s been given every chance in the world even during extended slumps of 0-29, 1-28, etc. and 40-50% strike outs while the other (injury related or not) remains in the minors. Let them both play and see what happens. Last time I looked there were multiple outfielders on a team and as far as I’m concerned the Pirates only have one that’s set in stone.
Since 2021, Gorski had a 16.5% swinging strike rate. Suwinski 10.9%. And that's considering Gorski was an 'older' prospect playing in High-A (pandemic year messed everything up, but still).
I've learned strikeout rates can be tricky to blindly follow in the lower levels as there are way more variables. I've seen the strike zone get pretty wacky in Bradenton this year as they adjust the ABS.
Despite all the negatives you mentioned on Suwinski, he was clearly the third best hitter on the team per xwOBA (and top 50 in MLB). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Gorski would even sniff this level of performance based on this year’s numbers as he regressed considerably while repeating AA. They’re the same age and Suwinski has almost 1k MLB ABs and nearly 50 MLB HRs. Why all the consternation?
Had breakfast next to Buster Olney saturday morning, AMA.
Oh, do tell. There has to be a story here...did you talk to him?
He lives in town now apparently. Biscuits n gravy guy, strong call.
reward that dude
From previous posts I get the impression that Gorski is a slightly better version of Suwinski. What am I missing? Help me Anthony. Wilbur? John?
Gorski's OBP mostly at AA is .296, jack's is .335 in the majors. He has upside but at this point way more downside than even jack
I also believe Suwinski is younger than Gorski, and has a year in MLB already.
I wouldn't say that. For all the issues we've seen with Suwinski in the majors, he was a pretty strong contact guy in the minors. I'd say defensively Gorski is better than Suwinski in center field. He probably has more raw power, he just doesn't make the kind of contact Suwinski did in the minors. Doesn't project well to the majors.
How are you defining contact? I’m not great at pulling together these numbers. I usually seem to miss some component of them, but as best I can determine Suwinski struck out around 27% of this plate appearances in the minors and Gorski’s around 28% so there’s not much difference there. We all know Suwinski’s strike out’s with the Pirates and Gorski’s not had the chance to find out what he can do probably because of injuries.
Suwinski’s offensive contributions are primarily his home runs and walks are they not? He doesn’t drive in many runs related to the number of homers he hits and his career BA is .209. He has good speed but doesn’t steal many bases.
It’s not fair nor informative to compare these guys and it shouldn’t be looked at as a competition between them. One’s been given every chance in the world even during extended slumps of 0-29, 1-28, etc. and 40-50% strike outs while the other (injury related or not) remains in the minors. Let them both play and see what happens. Last time I looked there were multiple outfielders on a team and as far as I’m concerned the Pirates only have one that’s set in stone.
Since 2021, Gorski had a 16.5% swinging strike rate. Suwinski 10.9%. And that's considering Gorski was an 'older' prospect playing in High-A (pandemic year messed everything up, but still).
I've learned strikeout rates can be tricky to blindly follow in the lower levels as there are way more variables. I've seen the strike zone get pretty wacky in Bradenton this year as they adjust the ABS.
Despite all the negatives you mentioned on Suwinski, he was clearly the third best hitter on the team per xwOBA (and top 50 in MLB). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Gorski would even sniff this level of performance based on this year’s numbers as he regressed considerably while repeating AA. They’re the same age and Suwinski has almost 1k MLB ABs and nearly 50 MLB HRs. Why all the consternation?
He only sees batting average and the k’s. I’m his mind, that eliminates all the good things he does.
As I said elsewhere, he’s a doctor who only looks at anecdotal data. Unintentionally hilarious.
Thanks!