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I agree that I'm not upset at the returns, I'm upset that they're essentially signaling treading water. Still.

We know they aren't going to do anything splashy in the off-season, cause they never do. It's not their style. Maybe they'll seek "higher" paid FA's, but even those are likely to be gradual step ups. I'll say I'd be intrigued on a VV reunion, but otherwise, what are they really going to go after? Veteran "established" version of the already backlog of back-end starters they have? At least pitching wise (as I've stated), I have some confidence in the upcoming arms as opposed to the existing.

Where my biggest issues stand are with the bats. They brought back arms really of the nature that already existed, and the lotto bats are teenagers in complex leagues. They haven't really shown an ability to develop and get the most out of the 40/45 value types. Jack is their one example of hitters, and he's probably settling into a role player (a good one). Alika is showing some promise, so fingers crossed there. But I'm not really sure of the steps forward they've taken.

Does the lineup have more "wow" factor? Yes, but in 2024 it'll once again be contingent on most of the roster playing up to their ceilings and expectations. We see what has happened just with the Cruz injury. If they lose one or two of their more promising bats to injuries, or they slump, what's the backfill? The same players they've been using to trudge along the past few seasons.

I've been seeing articles discussing the deadline and how the Pirates "kept their core intact". They don't have a core to have kept intact, it's just a perceived one due to the state of the roster. Their core, should they succeed, is only just arriving. Get a new hitting coach/philosophy, and maybe they get the actually good Reynolds back, maybe Key FINALLY uptaps his power. Jack is fine for what he is, but I wouldn't exactly pencil him in as "core". Maybe he continues to develop into a part of it, but he's been a kid that will carry the offense for 3-4 games then disappear for next 2 weeks. We're still not sure if Cruz took the steps he needed to. Triolo is probably the best bench/platoon option they've had of the bunch, but that's bench/platoon. Peggy, Endy and Tank are the hitters I'm feeling most confident as of now. Alika to a lesser degree is intriguing me, if not the fact he's really good at what he's good at, which is mostly defense. While so far showing he's not a pushover with the bat.

A good team like the Rangers wanted Hedges, cause a good team can hide his inefficiencies within their lineup. On a roster like the Pirates, they're an airhorn cause it's subpar.

I want to be the O's or Rays who have prospects killing it in the upper levels, but can't crack the MLB roster, cause where are they gonna play? Instead I'm sitting here groveling about how probably by April of next season we're already going to see, "THEY NEED TO CALL UP TERMARR NOW!!!!!!", or insert various other prospects.

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A 2-WAR first base platoon, 1.5-2 WAR 5th starter, and a catcher who was just acquired by the 3rd best team in the AL for their playoff push. That plus a resurgent Cutch, improved Vince Velasquez, and versatile bat in Connor Joe is a pretty darn good off season, relative to what I see across the league.

That mix would've been precisely what this club needed, IF the young core they were acquired to support didn't stink.

I'm no fan of Cherington's team building, but my focus in what's wrong falls elsewhere than this article's.

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