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John Six's avatar

When I came up with my previous flawed, Bucs sweep Marlins, Brewers sweep Cubs and Cardinals sweep Reds and the Marlins get in forgetting about the Padres I also left out one of the most common denominators and that was the Pirates are pitching TBD to finish the season which means every game is a bullpen game and over Shelton's tenure as manager he has proven he is clueless at managing a bullpen!

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Docdon385's avatar

There is no excuse for losing this game, although I’m sure Shelton will make one up.

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Arky Wags's avatar

Prolly cause they didn’t have Dylan Crews.

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bucsws2024's avatar

He basically said all was going according to plan until Selby f'd it all up by leaving everything over the plate.

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JRC21's avatar

The Cubs have only themselves to blame, but they will be furious when they see how the Pirates managed the pitching this evening. Shelton hasn’t put Selby in that situation all year. Just flat out handed them the game. This is not the moment for experimenting or checking someone out in a high leverage situation.

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Anthony's avatar

How does one evaluate a pitcher in a high leverage situation without putting them in a high leverage situation? Win, lose, or draw, these experiences and opportunities can be invaluable to a young player or team.

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JRC21's avatar

That was not the time. First, Selby has been poor. So the outcome was easily anticipated. Second, the Marlins and the Cubs are in a playoff race and you owe it to both teams to put your best players out there. Shelton has to manage that situation like he has all season.

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1979andCounting's avatar

Payback to Ross!

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JRC21's avatar

The problem is that it reinforces the narrative that the Pirates suck.

This is really inexcusable. You pitch Mlodzinski to after Borucki in the 8th and Bednar in the 9th and call it a night.

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Aurorus Borealus's avatar

The Pirates are just not a good team, or at least not a team as high-caliber as the Cubs. Ross and the Cubbies will just have to deal with it.

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NolaJeffy(BnP)'s avatar

Pirates should be able to put together a quality pen next year.

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1979andCounting's avatar

Only quality if starters can throw innings.

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NolaJeffy(BnP)'s avatar

That's the kicker

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Scott Kliesen's avatar

Is Shelton purposely trying to lose? Fair question?

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bucsws2024's avatar

Was just thinking that. On what planet do you bring in Selby in the 7th inning with less than a six run lead? And now Bolton?

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Arky Wags's avatar

Less than a six run lead? If a pitcher can’t be trusted with a 3 run lead at any point, he shouldn’t be in the bugs.

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NolaJeffy(BnP)'s avatar

(I'll probably regret this shortly, but...) Bolton actually hasn't been bad. His numbers are skewed from when Shelty left him out to the ringers in the 8 ER appearance

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

No regret he did well k😁

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NolaJeffy(BnP)'s avatar

*insert wiping sweat gif*

Phew

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1979andCounting's avatar

That's a gut punch for Cubs when 4 spot is posted in Milwaukee.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

Gut punch for the Cubs……priceless!

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bucsws2024's avatar

Padres too... granted they were only hanging on by a red pube, but that's the end of them.

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PirateRican21's avatar

Why carry Hernandez if he’s not brought in to face lefties?

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1979andCounting's avatar

Real surprised go ahead runner was held at 3rd.

They should run on BRey.

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1979andCounting's avatar

Well they had Jazz on deck.

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JRC21's avatar

If the the Marlins can’t score a single run on Bido, Stratton, and Nicholas then they don’t deserve to make the playoffs.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

Bido, I agree. Stratton and Nicolas are improving each time out. Those 2 at least interest me.

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1979andCounting's avatar

We've got another manager putting a slugger as lead-off, ie. Schwarber. Tonite it's Soler with 36 HRs, .847 OPS. This is not your daddy's MLB anymore.

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PirateRican21's avatar

How many runners left on base for Reynolds today?

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Scott Kliesen's avatar

Reynolds with 7 and Hayes with 9. 😳

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PirateRican21's avatar

I feel that Hayes was a little different, I think he didn’t come up with less than two outs, I think the first time he came up with the bases loaded he hit a long fly ball to CF for example.

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PirateRican21's avatar

This is the kind of game I’ve expect from Endy, spraying liners to all fields.

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bucsws2024's avatar

Who had Triolo leading the team in OPS?

Jack, BRey and I guess Andujar could all catch/surpass him, but it's not looking like Triolo is gonna let them.

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Anthony's avatar

He’s nowhere near enough qualifying ABs for this to matter. And, OPS is garbage anyway.

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1979andCounting's avatar

What happened to an official game being 4.5 innings if home team is ahead, or 5 otherwise?

Really stupid to bring Marlins back to NY on Monday to get 3 outs.

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bucsws2024's avatar

The official rule:

Weather, if the game is called before it is a regulation game, or if a regulation game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead

Why the inning needs to be played:

The visiting team (Marlins) scored one or more runs (two, to be precise) to take the lead in the top of the ninth, but the inning could not be completed, so the game is suspended rather than declared official and final. Basically, as the home team the Mets must be given a chance to bat in the bottom of the inning after blowing the lead in the top half. That's the rule in a nutshell.

Also, Marlins only need to get one out, so the whole thing might take a minute.

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Robert Kasperski's avatar

Might be 1 pitch.

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1979andCounting's avatar

Good take, I did not know Fish went ahead in T9th. And I did not know they only need one out! Should have looked at box score first.

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pskell02's avatar

Empty stadium?

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WTM's avatar

TBD is our new ace.

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bucsws2024's avatar

And he can start consecutive games!

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1979andCounting's avatar

And TBA can piggyback after TBD.

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bucsws2024's avatar

This was a pretty cool promo by Altoona.

https://www.mlb.com/news/pirates-affiliate-honors-the-worst-player-of-all-time

Wouldn't say he was worst MLBer of all time though. Only played 2+ seasons, ended up with -0.4 bWAR. Horrid fielder though, apparently.

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