Just noticed that Justin Wilson is still slinging it in the big leagues, for the Red Sox now. Has a 2.48 era. He is 37 and this is his fourteenth big league season. Left handed relievers seem to last forever.
Pitchers last forever in the modern game. There are just so many ways to retools as a pitcher as you age. Increases survivability. OTOH, hitters are pretty much toast by age 36.
I just loved how the ball exploded out of his hand despite a very fluid controlled delivery. His arm is special which is why he's still slinging it in MLB.
I don’t exactly agree, but I can’t exactly argue, either. A real GM would have this team in a position where it’d be out of the question to trade Mitch. Even before today he was 20th among all Ps in fWAR. Probably headed for a 4-win season, maybe 5. It’s effing hard to find a SP like that.
For $15 million with 3 more years on his contract. That is major value. You don't trade that away for Billy Cooke or Nick Yorke. The initial offer has to be very serious or I hang up the phone immediately without saying goodbye or even bother laughing at the offer.
I don't see how you get more value out of $15 million per year anywhere, so I don't understand the rush to trade Keller.
Behind Keller, you have Jones, who just missed a full season with a serious injury. You have Ovieda, who is not recovering well from TJS. You have Chandler who is not making a convincing case that he is going to give you 180 quality innings every year for 5 years in a row. You have Harrington who still looks a long way away... if even a prospect at all. You have Burrows, who is still adapting to major-league ball and still a question mark, and Ashcraft, who is doing very well in the bullpen.
You can very quickly go from a team that just needs a few hitters to a team that is a trainwreck, and Keller is the major firewall between those two outcomes.
Love IKF’s answer about Hannah’s question on Skenes starting the All Star game—‘now all I have to do is watch the first inning’. My perspective too.
I want to provide some perspective as I sit here Gorging on this delicious locally made chicken salad.. quite amazing! The table is set. We go on a three-game win streak, and we are back to our .500. this team is nothing short of amazing.
It's been all bad since the FO made the highly analytic decision to trot out the corpses of Frazier and Pham for a season. You just can't water down an already-thin batting order like that.
So a good day for trade candidates: Keller, Ferguson, Santana, Bednar, Pham and IKF
Good news for those that don’t want them to trade Reynolds, the way he is playing no one would trade anything for him. I don’t care what underlying metrics say
In a reversal of his struggles from last year and early this year, he is struggling with fastball location today, but continues to drop those breaking pitches in with pin point accuracy.
FG has Cervantes at 30 on their big board, so by their report they have 3 of the top 30
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I don't mind reading it on every thread.
Just noticed that Justin Wilson is still slinging it in the big leagues, for the Red Sox now. Has a 2.48 era. He is 37 and this is his fourteenth big league season. Left handed relievers seem to last forever.
Pitchers last forever in the modern game. There are just so many ways to retools as a pitcher as you age. Increases survivability. OTOH, hitters are pretty much toast by age 36.
I just loved how the ball exploded out of his hand despite a very fluid controlled delivery. His arm is special which is why he's still slinging it in MLB.
Only 14 games out of the Wild Card. Here we come!
Yeah very possible. If they can win 30 in a row I think we make it.
It’s the winning-30-with-17-runs part that makes it a real challenge.
That's called Cheringtonball, sir.
Nobody said it would be easy.
Booyah!!! Steak broken by Mitchie the Kid!!!! Raise it!!!!!
Since scorers seem to have so much discretion now, give this W to Mitch.
Another great start against a Twins lineup that is very solid when healthy.
Need to build around him and Skenes for the next 3 years, not trade him.
I don’t exactly agree, but I can’t exactly argue, either. A real GM would have this team in a position where it’d be out of the question to trade Mitch. Even before today he was 20th among all Ps in fWAR. Probably headed for a 4-win season, maybe 5. It’s effing hard to find a SP like that.
For $15 million with 3 more years on his contract. That is major value. You don't trade that away for Billy Cooke or Nick Yorke. The initial offer has to be very serious or I hang up the phone immediately without saying goodbye or even bother laughing at the offer.
100%. I don’t know what constitutes an absolute lock impact bat ready for the majors, but they have to insist on two of them for Keller.
Yep
I don't see how you get more value out of $15 million per year anywhere, so I don't understand the rush to trade Keller.
Behind Keller, you have Jones, who just missed a full season with a serious injury. You have Ovieda, who is not recovering well from TJS. You have Chandler who is not making a convincing case that he is going to give you 180 quality innings every year for 5 years in a row. You have Harrington who still looks a long way away... if even a prospect at all. You have Burrows, who is still adapting to major-league ball and still a question mark, and Ashcraft, who is doing very well in the bullpen.
You can very quickly go from a team that just needs a few hitters to a team that is a trainwreck, and Keller is the major firewall between those two outcomes.
Love IKF’s answer about Hannah’s question on Skenes starting the All Star game—‘now all I have to do is watch the first inning’. My perspective too.
I want to provide some perspective as I sit here Gorging on this delicious locally made chicken salad.. quite amazing! The table is set. We go on a three-game win streak, and we are back to our .500. this team is nothing short of amazing.
Our top trade candidates all had good games today. I still don’t want them trading Keller, though.
Back over .500…all time…not this year.
Seems apt that they scored the winning run on a ground ball (admittedly against a tough pitcher).
And a tailor made double play ball, we'll take the break, we needed that.
As miserable as the road trip was, I guess going 7-8 over the last 15 with 9 on the road and all 15 against teams with playoff hopes isn’t bad.
Oh please it's bad all right. Is this what's it's come to? 1-8 sucks against anyone.
It's been all bad since the FO made the highly analytic decision to trot out the corpses of Frazier and Pham for a season. You just can't water down an already-thin batting order like that.
No doubt, just trying to take a longer view to console myself going into the break.
I'm not sure the Twins have much in the way of playoff hopes, but, man, does their lineup look good.
So a good day for trade candidates: Keller, Ferguson, Santana, Bednar, Pham and IKF
Good news for those that don’t want them to trade Reynolds, the way he is playing no one would trade anything for him. I don’t care what underlying metrics say
Please, let some team that needs veteranosity take Pham. Someone with net contact lenses has to gesture toward the fans to power a playoff run.
RTMFJR, jeez.
Hard as it to believe given Hayes' batting woes, 3b is the one position where the Bucs are better than the Twins.
Throw the high cheese David.
In a reversal of his struggles from last year and early this year, he is struggling with fastball location today, but continues to drop those breaking pitches in with pin point accuracy.
He was able to throw FB strikes and set up the curve ball with Lewis. Not as efficient as you'd like but he got it done.
The third strike to Lee was filthy.
When he has it all going, I honestly believe that he is the best relief pitcher in baseball.
We've faced quite a few great closers, there's a lot of them out there.
Come on Bednar. Let us have a bit of joy heading into the draft.