Ramos has some interesting numbers, but his WHIP doubled+ from FCL where it was around 0.7 to A where it was above 1.6. Very few innings at A+, and they were not very good.
Question: CSN was DFA'd on Jan 31 - to the best of my knowledge watching the MLB Transactions page, he has not been picked up. How long does the process take? And, second - if he is not claimed by another team, would the Pirates try to bring him back and not waste the developmental efforts we have already expended?
Ramos was slightly interesting, as he was the Pirates' first signing from Mexico after the MLB-wide moratorium on signings from there was lifted. (Something about shady financial practices.) His main function was to help get games over with. One feature of late-inning baseball in the low minors has always been relievers who can't throw strikes. Innings could drag on forever. Umps used to "compensate" by expanding the zone when the outcome wasn't in doubt, but the robo umps put a stop to that. In the FCL, Ramos would go in and throw strikes for an inning or two, but his stuff wouldn't play higher up.
The other two guys they released just couldn't throw strikes, and they didn't have the stuff to make up for it.
Hey Ethan, a hypothetical question. What if you had a player on the 40, < 3 years MLB service time, and enough time in MiLB to be a free agent. I am guessing they could be outrighted, but could reject the assignment?
Thanks. I am thinking about 2 examples. Hunter Stratton and Will Crowe. I believe nether had the necessary service Time or were outrighted before. Stratton was released and eventually signed a MiLB contract. Could he have been outrighted and reject the assignment because he had the necessary MiLB Time to be a FA? Crowe I think read somewhere did not have enough MiLB Time so initially was outrighted and eventually released to play overseas. So I guess the question. Is does MiLB service Time like reaching to the point of MiLB free agency have any impact on the ability to outright a player and their options to accept or reject.
I'm almost certain that a player must have 5 years MLB service time to reject a minor-league assignment the first time they are removed from the 40-man. If the player does reject the assignment, the team must reinstate him to the 40-man roster (and the 26-man) or release him outright. Players with less than 5 years MLB (not total professional) service time cannot reject assignment mid-season the first time that they are "outrighted." A player that has already been "outrighted" once (i.e. waived and DFAed) can reject an outright minor league assignment the second time if they have 3 years MLB service time. None of this prevents a team from granting any player who has not accrued 5 years MLB service time, like Crowe or Stratton, free agency or from releasing them to play overseas, but such a release is at the team's discretion.
Super excited to see the features this week, great work fellas!
Ramos has some interesting numbers, but his WHIP doubled+ from FCL where it was around 0.7 to A where it was above 1.6. Very few innings at A+, and they were not very good.
Question: CSN was DFA'd on Jan 31 - to the best of my knowledge watching the MLB Transactions page, he has not been picked up. How long does the process take? And, second - if he is not claimed by another team, would the Pirates try to bring him back and not waste the developmental efforts we have already expended?
Ramos was slightly interesting, as he was the Pirates' first signing from Mexico after the MLB-wide moratorium on signings from there was lifted. (Something about shady financial practices.) His main function was to help get games over with. One feature of late-inning baseball in the low minors has always been relievers who can't throw strikes. Innings could drag on forever. Umps used to "compensate" by expanding the zone when the outcome wasn't in doubt, but the robo umps put a stop to that. In the FCL, Ramos would go in and throw strikes for an inning or two, but his stuff wouldn't play higher up.
The other two guys they released just couldn't throw strikes, and they didn't have the stuff to make up for it.
A player needs assigned by the end of Day 7, with the DFA date being Day 0.
As a player with less than 3 years of service and no previous assignment he can't elect free agency, so he's likely to be outrighted.
Thank you, Ethan.
Hey Ethan, a hypothetical question. What if you had a player on the 40, < 3 years MLB service time, and enough time in MiLB to be a free agent. I am guessing they could be outrighted, but could reject the assignment?
Sounds like you're talking about electing MiFA in season? I don't think that's a thing, no. Just ML free agency.
Thanks. I am thinking about 2 examples. Hunter Stratton and Will Crowe. I believe nether had the necessary service Time or were outrighted before. Stratton was released and eventually signed a MiLB contract. Could he have been outrighted and reject the assignment because he had the necessary MiLB Time to be a FA? Crowe I think read somewhere did not have enough MiLB Time so initially was outrighted and eventually released to play overseas. So I guess the question. Is does MiLB service Time like reaching to the point of MiLB free agency have any impact on the ability to outright a player and their options to accept or reject.
I'm almost certain that a player must have 5 years MLB service time to reject a minor-league assignment the first time they are removed from the 40-man. If the player does reject the assignment, the team must reinstate him to the 40-man roster (and the 26-man) or release him outright. Players with less than 5 years MLB (not total professional) service time cannot reject assignment mid-season the first time that they are "outrighted." A player that has already been "outrighted" once (i.e. waived and DFAed) can reject an outright minor league assignment the second time if they have 3 years MLB service time. None of this prevents a team from granting any player who has not accrued 5 years MLB service time, like Crowe or Stratton, free agency or from releasing them to play overseas, but such a release is at the team's discretion.
Here is a pretty comprehensive summary of the waiver rules and the history of the rules in MLB. https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2019/8/5/20753590/a-primer-on-unconditional-release-and-outright-assignment-waivers-with-tl-dr-bullet-summary